Ridecamp: Re: [RC] [RC] MAGNESIUM, Joint Supplement

MSM is one of those "nutrients" we have been talking about. There are claims
of anti-inflammatory properties but as far as I know there has not been clinical
proof of this. Many oral joint supplements contain this compound at some
level as a source of sulfur.  From what I understand, even if MSM does have
anti-inflammatory properties, the concentrations specified below fell well
below what is thought to be therapeutic levels of MSM. 

As far testing, I use a joint product that contains MSM ( about 4 grams instead
of 10 grams per dose). I asked the person who developed it - who was a DVM
and a board certified and equine nutritionist. ) if it would test.  He said
he did not know and had asked the FDA and several labs that question in the
past since he had been asked it in the past. They could not tell him if it
would test or not (other than as sulfur which is already present in the body
at levels much higher than this). 

I would suggest to be in compliance with rule 13,  if you use this product
or any daily joint product, you'd be wise to pull it a couple days prior
to the ride. 
Truman


Magnumsmom@xxxxxxx wrote:
> Tom Dean wrote:
> > [...] I am concerned about the high magnesium in this 
> > product. After reading some of the posts on e'lytes and 
> > B.C.C.A., I was wondering if anybody had an opinion on 
> > this product?
> >
> > Contains (per 27 gram serving = 1 oz)
> > Glucosamine Hydrochloride. . . . . . . . .  10,000 mg
> > Methyl Sulfonyl Methane  (MSM) . . . . . . .10,000 mg
> > VITAMIN E  (dl-alpha tocopheryl acetate)    1,000  IU
> > VITAMINE C (ascorbic acid) . . . . . . . . .3,000 mg
> > MAGNESIUM  (magnesium carbonate) . . . .      750 mg
> > Molasses flavoured, top dressed powder
> >     
>
> Tom, you don't need to be worried so much about the
> Magnesium, as you need to be worried about the MSM.
> MSM *is* an anti-inflamitory and as such is definately
> not allowed in the AERC Rule 13.
>
> Some say to just take the horse off the joint supp a few 
> days to a week before competition to allow the MSM to 
> clear the system.  (my understanding is it *will* test)
>
> My feeling is I don't want to have my competition horse 
> on any daily anti-inflamitory period.  I want to know if 
> he needs it first.  I also don't want him anything that
> has yucca in it either, as yucca has pain reducing 
> properties.  
>
> Granted, the "retired" (from endurance) TB ex-race horse 
> is another story.  I know he has issues and I want to see 
> him on a supplement with MSM (which has synergistic 
> properties to GAGS and CS), and yucca is fine for him too.
>
> Pick another joint supplement.  Pick on with both GAGS and
> CS, and 
> some supportive minerals and such.  There are a few 
> out there that have both without MSM, yucca, or one of the
> other anti-inflamitory / pain reducing ingredients.  Or you
> can combine a couple of the more "pure" varieties.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Kathy Myers
> Santa Fe, NM
>
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