I had the same problems. As for saddle pad slippage You could attach ties and tie it to front rings like aussie saddle pads have. Or I got a new tacky- tack, nonslip pad. It really works! And you can rinse it off! I only am watching to see if it creates a heat problem. Laurie and Rascal ----- Original Message ----- From: DESERTRYDR1@xxxxxxx Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 12:38 PM To: heidi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [RC] Crupper And it's not always only a conformation problem. Some riders need breast collars and cruppers more than others. My girlfriend has problems with the saddle moving around on all of her horses. I have never ridden with a crupper or breast collar, she never rides without them. I have ridden her horses, and haven't used a crupper and breast collar over the same terrain that she does, and have not had significant saddle movement. She's a good rider, so I'm not sure why the difference, but it's definitely there. I don't think it's a security thing, as I have seen her saddle slide around, and she has to get off and reset and recinch the saddle. Also her saddle pads tend to scoot out from under the saddle. Any tips I can pass on would be appreciated. jeri
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