Ridecamp: RE: [RC] [RC] FEI Ride aka Masters Series

Title: RE: [RC] [RC] FEI Ride aka Masters Series

Our involvement has always been on an individual basis, not as a nation. We are an independent , soverign nation with our own issues and challenges, our own means of dealing with the FEI, etc.Our own National Federation, Equine Canada, whom our national organization, The Canadian Long Distance Riding Association (CaLDRA) 'reports' to as one of the national discipline associations.

While AERC is very highly regarded in Canada, it does not have a role in our governance, either at the national or NF level.

That AERC 'invented' the sport and continues to be a leader, is gratefully acknowledged.

But, Canada is not part of the AERC, regardless of what the web site states.  Canada is simply included in a carved up fashion with your regions.

There is no 'Canada'  region of AERC and I would question having Canada participate in the AERC in that way. But, Canadians have taken part at rider, ride management and director level.

I doubt that your governance (bylaws, etc) includes or would include other nations as part of your mandate. AERC simply isn't set up to be a global association.

However, we are good  'friends' and many of your values are enthusiastically supported and promoted. You guys have a great system for rewards and points! <g>

But, at the end of the day. We have to do our thing, our way.

Cheers

Monika Smith

from Canada <g>

> Truman:
>  
> The FEI does not recognize the AERC as a sanctioning
> body. They only work with the National Federations. In the USA the
> National Federation, USA-E recognizes the AERC and so states it in
> their rules. I do not believe that the Canadian Federation has any
> affiliation with the AERC. At least I have never seen such published.
> Perhaps our neighbors to the North can confirm this fact. How they
> work with FEI is their business and has no bearing on AERC except in
> the context of Rule 8.4 where the Great Northern Connection 75 would
> be FEI rides or
> endurance rides in a foreign country at least 50 miles long and
> sanctioned by an AERC recognized organization. I believe the AERC does
> recognize the FEI as a sanctioning organization though there has never
> been a statement to that effect.
>  
> Bob
>
>  
> Bob Morris
> Morris Endurance Enterprises
> Boise, ID
> > -----Original
> > Message-----
> > From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Truman
> > Prevatt
> > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 9:15 PM
> > To: John A. Teeter
> > Cc: steph@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [RC] [RC] FEI Ride aka Masters Series
> > My question is, "is or is not Canada come under the
> > AERC unbrella?" If Canada does come under the AERC, then as far
> > as the AERC is concerned does Canada fit the definition of
> > "foreign country" in this rule?  Yes Canadians carry
> > Canadian passports - not US passports. On the other hand the AERC
> > states that they are the "sanctioning body for endurance in the
> > US and Canada."  In this case I do not read rule 8.4 to
> > include Canada as a "foreign country,"  since it is
> > within the perview of the AERC. I would read the defineition of
> > "foreign country" to  all countries other than the US
> > and Canada (the two countires covered by the AERC). Would the AERC
> > recogonize a non sanctioned (even if somehow it managed to get FEI
> > sanctioning) ride if it were run in the US?
> >
> > I am not sure I see it back and white here. 
> >
> > John A. Teeter wrote:
> > > 8.4 Career mileage credit only for AERC members and
> > > equines who participate in FEI rides or endurance rides in a foreign
> > > country at least 50 miles long and sanctioned by an AERC recognized
> > > organization.
> > > from the
> > > rules....
> > > > -----Original
> > > > Message-----
> > > > From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Truman Prevatt
> > > > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 7:55 PM
> > > > To: steph@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Cc: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: Re: [RC]
> > > > [RC] FEI Ride aka Masters Series
> > > > Pan Am was not run in conjuction with an AERC ride and the
> > > > Pan Am did not request AERC sanctioning and denied such
> > > > sanctioning.
> > > >
> > > > That's where I see the difference.
> > > >
> > > > Truman
> > > >
> > > > Steph Teeter wrote:
> > > > > Truman - mileage (but no points) is awarded to
> > > > > riders who complete the Pan Americans (in Canada, Vermont, etc). - why
> > > > > would this be different?
> > > > >  
> > > > > Steph