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ROC Sanctioning
The reason the ROC is not sanctioned by AERC is because, to the best of my 
knowledge, there has been no request to sanction the ride with AERC.  The 
ROC is a Special Event ride as defined in AERC Rule 11.2 and further defined in 
AERC Rule 11.2.1.  Since the last time the ROC was sanctioned (and actually 
held) was in 1997, our rules require that it must reapply for Special 
Sanctioning.  That requires the Ride Management to make the formal request 
180 days prior to the actual ride date.  The sanction request is sent to 
the Executive Director  and then distributed to the Special Sanctioning 
Director, all Regional Directors where the ride will occur.  If the event 
is approved by the Special Sanctioning Director and the Regional Directors where 
the ride will occur, it is then distributed to the full BOD for comments.  
The BOD must approve or disapprove the request within 60 days of 
presentation.  All Special Event or Special Qualification events must go 
thru the same process for the first two years of the event.  Furthermore, 
due to many irregularities over the years, culminating with the 1997 ROC 
sanction request, the 1997 BOD voted to place certain financial criteria on the 
ride management of the ROC, which is still in place unless the current BOD 
decides to change that criteria..........which requires a motion and a 
vote.
 
As to Angie's comment that, "It really bums me out 
that I got no points
for doing the 100 at the Pan Ams.  I don't know how 
you could consider it
unfair to others who "weren't allowed to compete there" 
since it easily
knocked us out of doing more miles by not staying home and 
hitting the
close rides.", there is a very good reason AERC has 
this policy.  
 
The Pan Am is an event where the entries are "selected" -  it is not a 
ride that allows entry to any AERC Member.  AERC has an obligation to the 
majority of our membership and any ride (not just Pan Am) whose entries are 
selected allows for the possibility of "shaping regional and 
national championships" by inclusion and exclusion.  This is 
different than AERC sanctioned rides with "limited entry criteria"..those rides 
allow entry on a first come first serve basis and require that 
notice of the entry limitation be published in the EN Ride Calendar.  In 
the case of the Pan Ams, the entries are "selected" by individuals based on 
certain criteria..it is not filled on a first come first serve basis as per AERC 
Rule 3.2.  I understand how a rider at the Pan Ams can feel slighted by not 
getting AERC points, but entires do get career mileage.  Consider 
there are AERC Members who wished to compete in the Pan Ams and were not 
"selected"..and I suspect those AERC Members feel just as slighted and it would 
be even more unfair for someone "selected" for the Pan Ams to beat out a fellow 
AERC Member for regional or national awards who was not "selected" for the Pan 
Ams.  AERC Rule 8.4 allows entries to FEI rides, like the Pan Am, to get 
career mileage.
 
Happy New Year.
 
Randy Eiland
 
Angie wrote:
> Why isn't the ROC sanctioned by the AERC?
 
I think in the 
past there was a problem in that it wasn't open to ALL
horses & mules, 
etc.  To some extent I think this ruling needs to be
reconsidered by the 
board...I know the ROC was sanctioned later so
there's obviously a way it 
worked out...also since our National
Championship requires that you qualify 
now it wouldn't be sanctionable
either if that was the cause.  It really 
bums me out that I got no points
for doing the 100 at the Pan Ams.  I 
don't know how you could consider it
unfair to others who "weren't allowed to 
compete there" since it easily
knocked us out of doing more miles by not 
staying home and hitting the
close rides.  Someone said I'd get credit 
for the miles, but that hadn't
shown up last time I checked.  I think it 
hurts the credibility of the
AERC points race when some really great horses, 
like Red for instance,
can lose their standings in their region just by 
hitting and WINNING the
really big 
ones.
 
Angie
  
  
 
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