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RE: RE: Re: quest

The point of this was that Quest is not necessary in order to properly deworm our horses. And that even if it was a product that you wanted to used (all other issues aside), there are more cost effective without losing efficacy in your worming program.

>From: "Kathy Mayeda"
>To: "Carolyn Burgess" ,
>Subject: RE: RE: Re: quest
>Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:46:55 -0800
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>What does anthelcide cover that ivermectin doesn't? I've wormed
>for years with ivermectin only before I decided to do Quest and
>then ultimately Panacur purge. Ivermectin is pretty broad spectrum
>unlike Anthelcide, except it doesn't take care of the encysted small
>strongyles, which is what the Panacur purge is taking care of. Panacur purge
>is ROTATED every six months in lieu of the ivermectin, not in addition
>to.
>
>I checked a couple of on-line vet catalogs and Anthelcide and Strongid
>covers stuff already taken care of by ivermectin. And the only
>thing that Quest has over ivermectin is the encysted small strongyles,
>which is why I do the Panacur PURGE (not just the one-time paste).
>There is no reason that I can see to dose Anthelcide and Strongid
>in addition to ivermectin, but I could see it in a rotation which will
>actually reduce the cost.
>
>So Quest at $14 x 4 times a year (3 month dose) - $56.
>
>Ivermectin at $10 (more realistic price) x 4 times a year = $40, plus
>Panacur PowerPak (the purge) at $60 x 2 times a year = $160. Not exactly
>economical, even if you substitute Anthelcide for 2 of the ivermectin doses.
>
>But this is all moot point - we could play with all the numbers we want
>but I still won't use Quest anymore, even if it is more economical.
>
>Panacur PowerPak was amazing - I did see a dramatic improvement in my
>horses condition after using it!
>
>K.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Carolyn Burgess [mailto:carolyn_burgess@hotmail.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 10:05 AM
>To: ridecamp@endurance.net
>Subject: RC: RE: Re: quest
>
>
>On the cost issue, it is more expensive than other alternatives. You
>are
>making the assumpsion that I would use ivermectin in place of Quest,
>which
>is not completely the case. I rotate, so Quest would take the place of
>ivermectin and something like Anthelcide. Quest costs me $14,
>ivermectin is
>$9 and Anthelcide is >$4. And then if you talk about combining with
>Strongid
>($6/tube), it is very expensive.
>
>Carolyn
>
>
> >From: "Kathy Mayeda"
> >To: "Carolyn Burgess" ,
> >, ,
> >
> >Subject: RC: RE: Re: quest
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> >Cost wise, Quest is supposed to be dosed at 3 month intervals vs. 2
>months,
> >so the argument may be made that it's less expensive than the
>ivermectin
> >regimen.
> >
> >But the Quest itself is a safety issue. When it gets to the point that
>the
> >conventional vet advises against a product as my vet did, the threat
>seems
> >more real to me. I was advised to do the Panacur purge in lieu of
>Quest to
> >get the encysted small strongyles. Yep, more expensive by at least 3X
>and
> >a
> >pain in the behind to dose 5 days in a row, but better safe than sorry.
> >
> >K.
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Carolyn Burgess [mailto:carolyn_burgess@hotmail.com]
> >Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 6:36 AM
> >To: flynson@teleport.com; ridecamp@endurance.net; guest@endurance.net
> >Subject: RC: Re: quest
> >
> >
> >I have only used Quest once, without any incident on my 3 horses.
> >However,
> >at $14/tube and not finding any significant benefit, I have not added
>it
> >to
> >my worming routine mainly because there is no added benefit for the
> >added
> >cost.
> >
> >Carolyn Burgess
> >carolyn_burgess@hotmail.com
> >
> >
> > >From: "Kathryn Flynn"
> > >To: "RideCamp" ,
> > >Subject: RC: Re: quest
> > >Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 19:16:18 -0800
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> > >I had a horse develop neurological symptoms after having been given
> >Quest
> > >(in a proper dosage). Ruled out EPM. The vet said he was seeing
>more
> >and
> > >more horses with apparent neurological problems and the common
> >denominator
> > >was Quest. Extensive tests found nothing wrong with the horse.
>Three
> > >vets,
> > >acupuncture and chiropractic, later all three vets told me there was
> > >nothing
> > >wrong with my horse. But she still couldn't canter. Literally
> >couldn't
> > >canter, like she couldn't figure out which foot should go where. She
> >had
> > >been able to previously. I leased her to a home as a trail horse
> >where, a
> > >year later, she is doing well. If I still had her, I'd try her on
>the
> >EPSM
> > >diet just to see. So, I don't know if it was the Quest or not but,
>on
> >the
> > >advice of three vets I respect and their anecdotal experiences, I
>don't
> >use
> > >it any more.
> > >
> > >Kathryn
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From:
> > >To:
> > >Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 7:07 PM
> > >Subject: RC: quest
> > >
> > >
> > > > jc jcfarms@usa.com
> > > > I would like to hear from epople that have bad experiences with
> >Quest,
> > >and
> > >what action you took, with what results....thanks jc
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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