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K S SWIGART katswig@earthlink.net Jasmine Cave said: > In order to have a strasser type trim there are several other things that > must be done. The first thing is to have a natural living area for you > horse. This includes: > 1. enviornmental temperature- outside living. Strasser feels it is unhealthy > for a horse to be in a warm barn then pulled outside in the cold. She feels > the horse is better off living outside year round. My horses live outside 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. > 2.movement- she feels the horse has developed a continuous motion lifestyle > and keeping a horse stabled would be unhealthy.She feels the horse would be > better off living outside in a pasture or paddock so it could move around > freely. They live in a 100 acre pasture. > 3.herdlife- the horse has developed as a herd animal and it is better for > the horse mentally to have others of its own kind to groom each other and > socialize with. Herd size varies from 3-5 (although what a horse’s mentality and mutual grooming practices have to do with the condition of its feet and how those feet ought to be cared for is beyond me, but if it does, my horses qualify, unless she requires that they have entire males practicing and fighting for breeding rights to also be essential to the socialization of horses because that is what is done in nature). > 4.nutrition- the horse developed as a grazing animal and should be out to > graze pasture grass or given free-choice hay. She feels feeding only 2-3X > day is unhealthy for the horse. I supplement their graze (predominantly oat grass, but also a bunch of other grasses: orchard, rye, barley, mustard, a small quantity of alfalfa and some red clover in addition to whatever weeds grow out there--varies from year to year depending on the weather) with 5-6 lbs per horse per day of alfalfa hay during the late summer, fall, and early winter when the quality of the grass declines to the point that they are eating mostly dead grass and sticks. > 5.body posture- In the wild the horse has a lower head position. When > stabled the horse must eat and drink in an unaturally high position. Since they are grazing off the ground or I throw the hay on the ground I am okay there; the water level is about 2 feet off the ground (when the trough is full). > 6.exposure of the hooves to water- The hooves must be soaked 15 minutes per > day. In the wild this is done when the horse goes to a water hole to drink. > It can also be done by riding the horse in water for 15 minutes or by useing > soaking boots. Just how wet the horses’ hooves get and how much time they spend standing in mud depends on the time of year (more during the rainy seasons than the dry season, but since one of their favorite activities during the hot months is to throw water on themselves from the water trough, it gets a bit muddy around the watering hole). However, none of them ever spends 15 minutes standing in the mud by the water trough. They go up, get a drink and leave (or throw water around and then leave to go roll in the dirt). Neither of these activities takes 15 minutes, so I question the assertion that 15 minutes of soaking is mimicking the activity of wild horse behaviour around a water hole. > 7.resting spaces- in the wild the horse is in open space, when stabled the > horse is kept in a small space where amonia from urine can cause problems > with the hooves. No small spaces or enclosed spaces (except for the hay barn) at my place. Everything is open air…even the “shelter.” > 8.oils- strasser feels that hoof oils cause more problems than they help and > should not be used. She does recomend the use of a water based conditoner > after the hooves have been soaked to help hold in moisture for hooves that > are prone to drying out. This conditioner is sold on Jaime Jacksons site. I have never bothered with any hoof conditioners (I am not convinced that they perform any function). > 9.direct ground contact- stabled horses do not get this. Bedding prevents > the expansion of the hoof capsule and changes the angle the horse stands at > because the hooves sink into bedding. strasser uses rubber mats in her run > in. If the horse likes to lay done she says to have a pile of shavings or > sand for the horse to lay abd roll in, but only in one spot, NOT the whole > floor of the run in. I use straw in the foaling pen for the broodmares, and I will occasionally use straw to fill in any nasty mud holes, but I don’t provide any bedding for the horses…which isn’t to say that they don’t have their favorite dust bowls for rolling in or lying down in. > This is all talked about in detail in the book " A Lifetime of > Soundness".She also talks about several hoof diseases and prevention. So > what Strasser recomends is a paddock or pasture with a run in shed and > keeping the horses in a social group. If you are going to be riding on lots > of rocks you should add stones to the area the horses stand most like around > the water tank. I certainly don’t need to add any rocks to my granite mountain despite the fact that that is where I do most of my riding. However, my horses spend very little time standing around the water tank (probably because there isn’t any graze around the water tank and they spend most of their time grazing). They do have some favorite spots (I am assuming it is because there is something about the soil in those areas that makes the grass tastier…because they always graze down their favorite spots first. However, they also have their 2 o’clock tree (no where near the water trough) which is an nice big oak that provides nice shade and a pleasant breeze on hot summer afternoons where they can usually be found dozing on hot days, and they also have the olive grove for when the wind and the rain get heavier (also nowhere near the water trough). And in the wild, it is unlikely that horses will spend much time hanging out at a water hole. The water hole is where the predators hang out. Wild horses will also drink and leave. So if she says that horses would “naturally” stand around at a water tank, she is mistaken. > In order to do the strasser trim the horse must have natural living > conditions and have a physiologically correct trimming by a qualified > hoofcare specialist. And this totally flies in the face of all logic. If the horse has natural living conditions it won’t need trimming (who trims the feet of wild horses???) Let’s face it, trimming a horse’s feet is as “unnatural” as shoeing them. Trimming a horse’s feet is an intervention of man to alter/adjust the way a horse’s foot wears and/or grows. So let me tell you about how my horses, that are kept probably more “naturally” than any horse that Dr. Strasser has ever observed in the paddocks of Germany, have adapted their feet to their living and working conditions. In fact, let me tell you about Marla. Marla is a 7 year old TB mare that was born at my place (in the foaling pen which is about 40’ x 80’) and when she was three days old she was flung out to pasture with her mother and the rest of the herd, which, while it did not include any entire males, did included one aged gelding and another adult gelding who in may ways THOUGHT he was a stud (because he was gelded quite late at the age of 6 AFTER he had bred a couple of mares). Marla never saw a shoe or a trim as she grew up on the 100 acres of granite mountain with the normal southern California rainy season/dry season. However, the ground does have an average of about a 13% grade on it, so there ain’t much by way of standing water, even during the rainy season (even the dust bowls don’t get all that muddy in the rains, drainage is just too good). She was ground driven as a yearling and two year old (barefoot), backed lightly as a long three year old just to introduce her to the concept of being ridden (barefoot), ridden more consistently as a four year old but still mostly to acquaint her with the aids but also to do some light conditioning of her musculoskeletal system for the work of carrying a rider while working up to longer distances (all over the same kind of terrain…her home mountain, but also some of the clay bottoms of the Santa Ana Canyon and the sandy bars of the Santa Ana River). It was during this conditioning that she began to show signs that being ridden was uncomfortable for her feet. I put shoes on her and the discomfort went away. If this doesn’t qualify as keeping the horse naturally, taking the time to slowly bring the horse along so it can adapt to the work it is being asked of, and the horse not having to “recover” from the ill-effects of being shod, I don’t know what does. So, quite frankly, if Dr. Strasser says that a horse’s feet can adapt to any workload so long as it is kept naturally, its feet haven’t been compromised by shoing, and the work is brought along slowly, all I can say is…she doesn’t know what she is talking about (and this was my polite way of putting this). Marla IS a Thoroughbred and she doesn’t have as good of feet as her Anglo Arab half brother (who is now at the “long four year old” stage of his training and hasn’t needed shoes yet, but then, he is also a stallion, so he doesn’t get to run on the 100 acres, he is confined to 1/2 an acre—and just last month he needed his first trim, since last summer he was moved into the “stud pen” for while I was out of town at the 2001 XP, and the stud pen, while it is more secure, doesn’t have quite as abrasive of footing as “the little boys pen” (which is the 2/3 acre where I keep young colts). He does get to run in the pasture when I pen up the girls and can put him out with the geldings (who are also penned up, the reasons which have nothing to do with their feet). I don’t know whether Marla’s brother will ever need any hoof protection. I don’t have any plans to do endurance with him, he is slated to become a dressage horse and he will be living in the softer, less abrasive footing of the stud pen for his entire life (since I also don’t have any plans to geld him). But I do plan to do plenty of trail riding on him (since trails are the only training facilities I have right now), so he might need some kind of hoof protection, who knows. But, here is my point, it is horses that are NOT kept in a completely natural environment that are more capable of doing longer distances without hoof protection. These horses don’t wear off too much foot just walking around grazing. Windy (little arab/pony mare) could go barefoot through the hills over rocks etc. quite comfortably when she was kept in a stall. It wasn’t until she went out to pasture and started wearing off tons of foot just living that I had to provide her with hoof protection (and the only effective hoof protection for her is something that does not increase the diameter of the foot at all…so all hoof boots are out…because she interferes badly if you do). I have a client who kept her barefoot Arab mare in a box stall with shavings and a run for 20 years and rode her all over the same Santa Ana mountains (and had to have her trimmed about once every 12 weeks), but if that horse had been living outside at my place she’d have needed hoof protection for the kind of riding that Ginny like to do (even though it wasn’t endurance). And Marla, when I took her to the other side of the hill last May to give her some “town bronze” before I took her to the XP this summer, lived in a stall…and what do you know, she grew enough foot so that I could ride her through the hills barefoot without her getting all ouchy. And the reason that she grew some foot was because she WASN’T living “out to pasture.” Saber, when he lived in a stall could do 50 mile rides barefoot fairly easily (assuming they were not back to back; he couldn’t do a 100 miler and I never tried a multi-day), but when he moved to the granite mountain…25 miles was about his max before he would start to get foot sore. Presumably, there is some happy medium for bare hoof management. Enough hard terrain to building a tough foot, but not living on it all the time so that it wears off all the foot just living. So, as far as I am concerned, the intelligent horse owner/manager keeps their horses barefoot for as long as the horse is comfortable doing so and then provides some kind of hoof protection that is appropriately suited to the horse and its specific needs, with respect to shape of hoof, conformation, quality of hoof, terrain, living conditions, work load, budget (it is important not to forget this), and availability of people who know how to properly apply the type of protection chosen (e.g. if you are going to use steel shoes, you have to have access to a competent farrier; if you are going to use Equithotics, you have to have a farrier who knows how to work with them, if you are going to use EasyBoots SOMEBODY has to know how to put them on properly, etc.) Dr. Strasser may have what sounds like a nice theory (although I can point out to you some really substantial problems with her underlying concepts), and, for all I know, she may not be claiming that horses can do thousands of miles of endurance competition in a year just so long as they have “adapted” to it (I haven’t heard from her, only from people who claim to be quoting her), but in practice her theory just doesn’t hold water. Darolyn stated that she thought that if her horses were kept and conditioned in rocks that they then would be able to compete in rocks as well. And I am telling you (and her if she is listening), that my horses ARE kept and conditioned in rocks, and not only can they not compete in rocks, they can’t even be heavily conditioned in rocks or competed in anything. They wear off too much foot just walking around grazing. And if you listen to the people who DO actually keep their horses naturally (as in running around in the mountains barefoot until they are old enough to do something with), you will hear them say “no, the underlying theory is wrong, and all of the reasons that you give for believing it are also wrong.” It IS perfectly natural for hoof wear and hoof growth to match perfectly when the horse is doing what it was designed to do…walk around and graze on unirrigated terrain with occasional burst of speed to avoid predators…or just for the hell of it (they sometimes do that). But the instant you ask the horse to do anything different than this, you are going beyond the design of the mechanism. The bare hoof mechanism is not designed for anything more than walking around and grazing on unirrigated terrain with occasional bursts of speed. The extent to which man can adapt the mechanism to accommodate work for which it was never designed has nothing to do with what is “natural.” Man has made all kinds of conformational and other adaptations through selective breeding to attempt to accommodate the way that he keeps and uses horses, some with more success than others, but make no mistake, no “wild horse” was ever designed to do any of the things that endurance riders (and almost everybody else who has one) ask their horses to do. A wise horseman (no matter what his discipline) either figures out a way to make those adaptations without breaking the mechanism (and uses every tool at his disposal to do so), or he just uses the horse beyond it capabilities and throws it away when he is done; hoping that it will have served its purpose before it becomes useless. Endurance riders, because one of the major goals is life time mileage (and, is what attracted me to endurance in the first place) generally don’ t fall into the latter category. Much of what I am hearing from many of the barefoot enthusiasts who have posted here is that they are unwilling to accept that there really are limitations to the mechanism of a bare hoof. To which, the engineer in me can only answer, “there are limitations to EVERY mechanism.” kat Orange County, Calif. p.s. For any of you who are under the mistaken assumption that a bare hoof can be conditioned to the point where it is as resistant to wear from abrasion as steel, I suggest you perform a small experiment. Pick up a hoof rasp and your horse's bare foot and rasp off and eigth of an inch of hoof. Then using the same rasp and the same amount of pressure, pick up the foot of a horse shod with steel shoes and rasp off an eigth of an inch of steel. See which takes longer.
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