Re[2]: DIY blood glucose checks

[Roger Rittenhouse <roger@vmaxept.com>]

Hello Bob,
TO all - the device to sample the blood is called a LANCE, it is NOT a
needle .. NOTHING goes IN .. it is the same device the diabetics use
to obtain a drop of blood sample.

I see no violation on the defined rule - and will continue to take
samples  -- please note many vets are in fact taking samples at ride ..
that is a full draw from the vein .. should this also be considered in
the same light??  Just because a 'vet' takes a 'sample' and is not a
ride vet but a researcher, who's to say they would not inject something.

If I was using a real needle there 'might' be some point, but this is
quite petty.

In fact, I am waiting for the day when the small machines currently
used a many rides (vets) to preform a small blood panel can be preformed to
provide additional information for the ride vet and the rider.
As many know this is being done today.


Roger Rittenhouse
roger@vmaxept.com

Thursday, August 30, 2001, 11:10:51 AM, you wrote:

BM> While Roger has encountered no objection, some riders have.

BM> Now in all fairness, the Rule 13a should be examined and an over all
BM> decision rendered by the Vet Committee on this procedure. If the use of
BM> acupuncture is considered invasive (because the skin is penetrated) should
BM> not the drawing of blood for a glucose test be considered invasive. (because
BM> the skin is penetrated) Granted the same applies to the taking of blood
BM> samples but this is being done by and for the Vets and not on a random
BM> individual basis.

BM> My real concern, and this is hypothetical, that while we now have blood
BM> glucose being tested for during rides how soon before we have more intense
BM> blood sampling on a random individual rider basis? This is something we do
BM> not need to see at rides. How do you control what is coming out vs what may
BM> be going in when a syringe and needle is involved.

BM> Yes, this concern may be premature but it is best addressed prior to it
BM> happening.

BM> Bob Morris

BM> -----Original Message-----
BM> From: Roger Rittenhouse [mailto:roger@vmaxept.com]
BM> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 9:55 PM
BM> To: CMNewell
BM> Cc: ridecamp@endurance.net
BM> Subject: RC: DIY blood glucose checks


C>> Is there any reason rules-wise  that a rider couldn't monitor his horse's
C>> blood glucose levels during competition?
C>>                               --CMNewell, DVM

BM> None what so ever - I have been doing this for about 4 to 5 years
BM> now.. I just tell the vets at vet in - the shaved spot on the neck is
BM> a good clue.  No vet has objected and they ask what the Glucose levels
BM> are  --
BM> Have not done it much this year at the Vc  - only the AM pre-start and
BM> the finish.

BM> Roger R


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