RE: Alfa Bet Soup

["Bob Morris" <bobmorris@rmci.net>]

Title: Alfa Bet Soup

OK Kathy:

 

If the AERC NC was to be an FEI event then the AERC would have to negotiate with the FEI as to how the event would be named.("Working Agreement" (see Art. 110.1) shall be
reached between the FEI and the relevant NF and OC, which defines their respective rights and duties related to the
exploitation of all commercial properties and the possible sharing of the revenues there from)

 

As far as <<<AHSA doesn’t even bother with rankings.>>>  The AERC handles that function for them as far as endurance is concerned. In fact the FEI is, I believe, letting the UAE do the same for international Endurance or so it appears.

 

As far as a working agreement vs.. a mandate "IT ALL DEPENDS" We have yet to see what it might be. 

You also stated <<<After AERC people have been putting together the National Championships, AHSA comes with an un-negotiable
proclamation after the venue and date has been established.  At least FEI has in it’s language the word “negotiation”. >>>

 

The clause was in the AHSA administrative rules well before the AERC ever joined. The fact is the responsible persons in AERC did not do their home work. By signing on with AHSA they agreed to the clause and then like so many other times in the administration of AERC matters they said, at a later date, WHOOPS!!!! 

 

Also <<<At least FEI has in it’s language the word “negotiation>>> A very nice word "negotiation" Just what does it mean? My way or the high way? I will give you what you want? Makes good filler text and when you get to the table you are in for one big surprise I bet. Remember what I wrote about cultural differences!

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Kathy Mayeda [mailto:Kathy_Mayeda@atce.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 9:32 AM
To: bobmorris@rmci.net; ridecamp@endurance.net
Subject: Alfa Bet Soup

Okay Bob – here’s my take on this

Article 119 - COMMERCIAL RIGHTS
1. The FEI owns its title and emblems, the titles, emblems, and competition formulae of all championships and other
FEI-named events, series and competitions established under the authority of the FEI as mentioned in Art. 108 and 109.

“established under the authority of FEI” – NC is an AERC event, right?

1.1. The FEI owns the Official International Ranking Lists resulting from the ranking of competitors and horses
competing at the events and competitions held under its authority.

AHSA doesn’t even bother with rankings.

1.2. The FEI has the exclusive right to exploit the aforesaid properties throu gh all media, including new media, Internet

and TV in all its forms, as well as for sponsorship and marketing purposes according to the conditions laid down in
paragraphs 2 and 3 below.
2. With regard to championships and other FEI-named events, a .

“Working Agreement” is a lot better than a MANDATE, huh”

2.1. The Working Agreement shall recognise previous commitments of the relevant NF and OC and resolve any
possible conflicts..2.2. Subject to the provisions in paragraph 3, the normal basis for the Working Agreement will be the licence to the

relevant NF and OC of the commercial properties for a fee pre-established by the Executive Board for each category of
championship or event and for possible profit sharing.
2.3. With regard to the FEI -named series and competitions organised as a part of other events, the Working
Agreement shall be reached between the FEI and the relevant NF and OC which shall respect previous commitments of
the relevant NF and OC, unless otherwise agreed.
3. The Working Agreement must be finalised before the Bureau/ Executive Board confirms the final allocation of the
event, series or competition. The exploitation of all commercial properties and TV rights must be negotiated in such a way

as to assure the feasibility of the event, series or competition concerned, taking into consideration the technical and
sporting conditions and the promotion of equestrian sport.

After AERC people have been putting together the National Championships, AHSA comes with an un-negotiable
proclamation after the venue and date has been established.  At least FEI has in it’s language the word “negotiation”.