Re: RC: RE: Re: ridecamp-d Digest V01 #661

[Jim Holland <lanconn@tds.net>]

Were you there? I feel I "qualified" my "flame", indicating that it was
not directed at any one individual.  I wanted it recognized as a
"flame".  Am I a over-reacting, type A, who should be removed from my
keyboard forever?  Possibly. I am outspoken, set-in-my-ways (probably
old age), and am somewhat fervent in following my beliefs.  If that
offends you, I humbly apologize. I would like to see the things that
occurred at Biltmore never happen again.  I have the greatest respect
for Susan Kasemeyer, Anne Ayala, and many others who were involved in
that ride....but that doesn't change the facts.

Jim and Sun of Dimanche

johnt@goldhill.com wrote:
> 
> I'd suggest that messages that specifically antagonize via "FLAME ON" kind
> of language are not welcome on ridecamp and that those that post with such a
> line-in-the-sand-chin-protruded-puckered-nosed-point-of-view might well
> consider finding a rope that cares to help you defiy gravity with ....
> 
> well enought already. i'm gonna go ride.
> 
> johnt
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Holland [mailto:lanconn@tds.net]
> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 5:43 PM
> To: NdurN@aol.com; Ridecamp
> Subject: RC: Re: ridecamp-d Digest V01 #661
> 
> ...and the GIST of Biltmore Ride Management is they are the BEST
> 
> Susan Kasemeyer
> 
> I would like to see this go away...I am tired of rehashing the spring
> Biltmore...I would like to FORGET it..and I WILL vote with my feet
> (hoofs) in the future.....however, I cannot let this pass.....this is
> not a personal post against any one individual, but I am entitled to my
> opinion:
> 
> "FLAME ON!"
> 
> THAT is a matter of opinion....and I RESPECTFULLY disagree...for THIS
> Biltmore Ride.  I had no problem with the Vets....they did a great
> job...for ALL riders.  However, I thought this was a "showcase" for the
> FEI crap, and everybody else didn't matter. IMHO, a normally excellent
> Ride Management was overwhelmed by having to meet the FEI
> "requirements". The rest of us were just incidental..never mind that the
> MAJORITY there were NOT FEI.  The FEI "people" (not the riders) were
> trying to show the rest of us how "elite" they were. Fifteen dollar
> meals? Non-FEI riders delegated to the North Forty?  If security was the
> issue, why didn't you put the FEI riders down there? How about FEI at
> one end and AERC at the other and leave the Vet Check open so we could
> ALL at least park there for crewing. Fifty milers were treated as "Oh,
> well, we gotta put somebody out there to write down times"....as
> evidenced by the finish line fiasco among other things....and it wasn't
> just MY placing that was wrong. Ask ANY of the top 4-10 Riders in the
> 50. I talked to and rode with most of them at Longstreet's Charge and
> they were just annoyed as I was! Why was the finish line timer video
> taping instead of writing down numbers as they came across the finish
> line? Maybe practicing for the 100 milers? If Nancy Gooch or Sam Bartee
> had been there that wouldn't have happened.  I've seen Nancy get it
> right while bailing out into a creek to get out of the way! <grin>
> 
> I state again "I am vehemently opposed to any ride that runs under both
> FEI and AERC rules". Why don't you "FEI People" just have "FEI Rides"?
> Could it be that the attendance would be miniscule and you need the rest
> of us for our $$$$$?
> 
> "FLAME OFF"
> 
> Jim and Sun of Dimanche
> 
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