RE: RC: .....Polish vs Egyptian

["Kathy Mayeda" <kathy_mayeda@atce.com>]

I also believe that Russian and Polish are so closely related
and derive from the same source, and have the basically the
same breeding goals, so I agree with you entirely.  Like
I said, STEREOTYPES!

It's like saying all Bey Shah horses are crazy.  The 4 y.o.
I am working with is soooo sweet and sensible, but he is a little
sensitive.

K.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bette Lamore [mailto:woa@stormnet.com]
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 7:42 AM
To: Kathy Mayeda
Cc: C. Osborne; Scott & Dede Johnson; ridecamp@endurance.net
Subject: Re: RC: .....Polish vs Egyptian


Hi Kathy
Although my Russian horses are flattered by the comment about how their
heads are prettier than the Polish, I think that *Bask and his
descendants might have an argument there  ;-) They also might quibble
about the racing thing since Polish horses have dominated the US in
racing for years (while the Russians like *Muscat were winning in
halter). Russians develop slower and so were pretty much too immature
for all the 3 year old sweepstakes-- the Polish matured much faster. In
Europe, however, the Janov and Tersk studs waged a race to determine
race superiority-- guess what-- the Bolsheviks won! In short, it is not
that clear-cut. There are LINES of Russians who did just as well in
halter and LINES of Polish that did very well in racing (just ask Sharon
Magness)! And there are LINES in Egyptian that blew the pants off
everyone else in racing--- and we won't even get into the FRENCH!
Bette

Kathy Mayeda wrote:
>
> I just copied this from the Registry website.  The letters
> after the country name is the letter designation for that
> registry.  If you read further into the history of the
> spread of the Arabian breed......  from desert to Crabbet,
> then on Poland, Russian, USA, Argentina.....  mind boggling.
> I guess the distinction of Egyptian is derived from very
> specific Bedouin tribes vs. from the desert in general.
>
> Looking at my horses pedigree  - RASB, PASB pop up,
> and the rest was all domestic.  And a lot of the domestic
> stuff was Crabbet derived, and a lot of the RASB, PASB stuff
> was Crabbet derived....
>
> Okay, GROSS generality STEREOTYPES and you can disagree
> with me but no flaming please!
>
> Crabbet - muscular, apple rumped, cute, coppery chestnuts and greys.
> Egyptian - grey, very refined and typey tea cup muzzle - the
quintessential
> "Arabian" look
> Polish - big, red, athletic, straight profiled head.
> Russian - tall, leggy, racing machines with prettier heads than the Polish
> Spanish - little bit cresty, compact, more rounded, athletic in a dressagy
> way - I picture dappled grey with black mane and tail.
> Domestic - two strains here - giraffe halter/showring types and the good
> ole' usin' types - the American Heins 57 of all of the above.
>
> K.
>
>  STUD BOOK OR SOURCE NUMBER RECORDED
> COUNTRY CODE NAME BY SOURCE TOTAL
> ALGERIA ALSB Algerian Arabian Stud Book 531 531
> ARGENTINA SBA Argentinean Arabian Stud Book 11,912 11,912
> AUSTRALIA AHSA Arabian Horse Society of Australia 40,274 40,274
> AUSTRIA AAS Austrian Arab Horse Society 2,134 2,167
> ARAD * Radowce (Radutz) 33
> BAHRAIN BHR Amiri Stud of Bahrain 719 1,096
> BHRSP Bahrain Supervised Studs 377
> BELGIUM BAPS Belgian Arabian Horse Society 3,677 3,677
> BELIZE BASB Belize Agricultural Society 28 28
> BOLIVIA BOLSB Bolivian Stud Book 35 35
> BRAZIL BRSB Brazilian Stud Book 36,418 36,418
> BULGARIA BGASB Bulgarian Arabian Stud Book 223 223
> CANADA CAHR Canadian Arabian Horse Registry 40,744 40,744
> CHILE CHSB Chilean Stud Book 785 946
> SBCH Stud Book Chile - Jockey Club 124
> SNA Sociedad Nacional de Agriculura 37
> COLOMBIA CSB Colombian Stud Book 128 128
> COSTA RICA CRAS Costa Rica Arab Horse Society 107 107
> CZECH REPUBLIC CRSB Czech Arabian Stud Book 92 92
> DENMARK DSAH Danish Arabian Horse Society 2,668 2,668
> ECUADOR ACCA Ecuador Arabian Horse Breeders Association 277 277
> EGYPT EAO Egyptian Agricultural Organization 2,106 5,128
> EAOPB EAO - Private Breeders Section 1,662
> ABSB * Al-Badeia Stud Book 277
> EGYPT * Egypt 287
> HSB * Hamdan Stud Book 74
> IOHB * Inchass Original Herdbook 265
> RAS * Royal Agricultural Society 457
> FINLAND FAR Finnish Arab Horse Society 231 231
> FRANCE SBFAR French Stud Book 24,849 24,849
> GERMANY GASB German Arabian Stud Book 27,935 30,240
> AV * Old German Pedigrees 569
> DAV * Old German Stud Book 393
> EGSB * Roostock Zoo - East Germany 459
> SBWM * German Stud Book - Marbach 558
> WEIL * Weil Stud 326
> HAITI RHCA Registre Haitien Du Cheval Arabe 57 57
> HUNGARY ASBB Arabian Stud Book - Babolna 686 686
> IRAN IRAN Arab Stud Book of Iran 452 452
> IRAQ IRAQ Iraqi Arabian Stud Book 423 423
> ISRAEL IASB Israeli Arab Horse Society 1,357 1,357
> ITALY ITSB Italian Stud Book 4,014 4,014
> JORDAN RJSB Royal Jordanian Stud Book 886 886
> KUWAIT KSB Kuwaiti Arabian Stud Book 205 205
> LEBANON LSB Lebanese Stud Book 90 106
> LBN * Lebanon 16
> LIBYA LIBY Libyan Arabian Stud Book 43 43
> LITHUANIA LASB Lithuanian Arabian Stud Book 118 118
> MOROCCO MSB Moroccan Arabian Stud Book 1,490 1,490
> NETHERLANDS AVS Netherlands Stud Book 9,541 9,541
> NEW ZEALAND NZHS New Zealand Arabian Horse Breeders Society 2,967 2,967
> NORWAY NAHF Norwegian Arabian Horse Association 740 740
> OMAN OMAN Royal Omani Stud Book 858 858
> PAKISTAN PKSB Pakistan Arabian Stud Book 103 103
> PARAGUAY PARA Paraguay Arabian Stud Book 533 533
> POLAND PASB Polish Arabian Stud Book 6,786 7,000
> POL * Early Polish Pedigrees 214
> QATAR QASB Qatari Stud Book 1,049 1,049
> ROMANIA ROSB Romanian Arab Stud - Mangalia 146 146
> RUSSIA RASB Russian Arabian Stud Book 4,625 4,630
> RUS * Imperial Streletsky Stud 5
> SAUDI ARABIA SAUDI Saudi Arabian Stud Book 1,489 1,489
> SLOVAKIA CZSB Czechoslovakian Stud Book - Topolcianky 132 132
> SPAIN SSB Spanish Stud Book 11,141 11,141
> SOUTH AFRICA SASB South African Stud Book 7,294 7,294
> SWEDEN SAHR Swedish Stud Book 9,847 9,847
> SWITZERLAND CHAV Swiss Arabian Horse Society 1,830 1,830
> SYRIA SYSB Syrian Arabian Stud Book 755 755
> TUNISIA TSB Tunisian Arabian Stud Book 5,012 5,012
> TURKEY TKSB * Turkey - Old Pedigrees 6 6
> UNITED ARAB EMIRATES UAE United Arab Emirates Stud Book 2,532 2,532
> UNITED KINGDOM AHSB Arab Horse Society 29,995 32,220
> GSB * General Stud Book 2,225
> UNITED STATES AHR Arabian Horse Registry of America 580,534 580,534
> URUGUAY UASB Uruguayan Arabian Stud Book 4,433 4,433
> VENEZUELA VASB Venezuelan Arabian Stud Book 285 444
> VENZ Venezuela 159
> YUGOSLAVIA INOC * Inocendvor Stud 37 37
> ZIMBABWE ZSB Zimbabwe Stud Book 137 137
> TOTAL 897,018 897,018
>
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