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Re: Endure the flames



Hi Liz
I'd just as soon there were NO nasty posts. Somehow I have this picture
of nice little old ladies and gentlemen who are milktoast in person, but
get them behind the keyboard of the computer and they become Cruella
Devilles and Don Rickles (but at least HE's funny and no one takes him
seriously)-- maybe Goofy needs to make a new cartoon! (Oh dear, I'm
probably dating myself here--- the old driver's ed movie about driving
manners)  :-)
Bette

Liz Newfield wrote:
> 
> The worst personal attacks I have gotten were to me directly.  I would prefer to not get them or to have the person show their true colors in public.  Once I responded to a nasty reply to a ride camp post I had made publicly and the person reamed me up and down.  I think that's when I stopped posting to ride camp.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   Bette Lamore [SMTP:woa@stormnet.com]
> Sent:   Tuesday, April 10, 2001 8:14 PM
> To:     Howard4567@aol.com
> Cc:     ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject:        RC:   Endure the flames
> 
> I haven't seen you post any mean remarks, Howard.
> My preference would be to have those who feel they MUST replay with a
> snide remark do so privately, thank you very much. Many of us have
> received feedback that the majority of us would rather not deal with
> such negativity and neither does Steph (see her memos about no flaming)
> and it's HER party!! For those of you who like blood, there's always
> wrestling, XFL, and hockey!
> Go on a ride and spin us a good yarn, Howard ("G" rated  ;-)  )
> Bette
> 
> Howard4567@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 4/10/01 6:01:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, woa@stormnet.com
> > writes:
> >
> > > I remember when you were the brunt of some pretty mean remarks. I wonder
> > > if we went back to that period of time if you would welcome those
> > > "toughening remarks"--- you can always go to boot camp in the marine
> > > corp if you miss it ;-)
> >
> > Actually, boot camp in the Air Force was quite easy.  I was very disappointed
> > when I went through it.  They never taught me how to kill someone with my
> > bare hands which was quite a let down.  And I only got to fire a gun once.
> >
> > Those "tough remarks" sent my way never bother me Bette; well, maybe, one or
> > two of them did.  But, hey, even if some of them did surprise or upset me,
> > it's the price I'm willing to pay for free speech.  If I speak my mind (what
> > little of it is left) openly an angry rebuttal or two (or three or four) just
> > might be the fee I have to pay for my words or actions.  To me, that's the
> > price of freedom.  Not everyone is going to agree with you.  Sometimes I
> > think my gift is getting everyone to disagree with my point of view.  Call me
> > "stupid" (I know you wouldn't do this) if it makes you feel better; you
> > wouldn't be the first.  That is your right; just be ready for a rebuttal.
> >
> > A lot of those marines, soldiers, sailors, and even airmen, died for this
> > right.  It's what I enjoy about this country, the Internet, and ridecamp.  I
> > think it's why it's our first amendment, not our second or third.  It's the
> > most important and makes us all free.  You don't really want to censor
> > anyone, do you?  And just how would we do that?  Would we take a vote?
> >
> > Most of us take the responsibility for horse ownership quite seriously.  I
> > know you do.  And if that person gets caught up in the moment, loses control
> > of what they say sometimes because they feel so strongly about the subject,
> > so what?  It's how they feel, what they think.  And they have the need and
> > the nerve to let it out.  Let them, please.  It doesn't really hurt all that
> > much.  And even if it does, after you recover from the pain, you will be
> > stronger in the end.
> >
> > cya,
> > Howard
> >
> > cya,
> > Howard
> >
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> --
> Bette Lamore
> Whispering Oaks Arabians, Home of 16.2hh TLA Halynov
> (Yes, really 16.2!)
> http://www.arabiansporthorse.com
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-- 
Bette Lamore
Whispering Oaks Arabians, Home of 16.2hh TLA Halynov	
(Yes, really 16.2!)
http://www.arabiansporthorse.com



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