Re: RC: RE: UAE/AERC

["Nancy Mitts" <mitts_n@hotmail.com>]

Well,
I'm in favor of having more FEI rides in the U.S., and if the UAE is willing 
to help fund them I'm all for that, too.
But, I do wonder why it is necessary or desireable to be running an FEI 
event in conjunction with the National Championship.
The National Championship should be prestigious enough on it's own. I would 
consider it a seperate goal from International Competition, and attainable 
by a larger percentage of our membership. Adding an FEI ride would only 
dilute the atmosphere, would it not? Would it be limited to FEI riders who 
also qualified & entered the NC? (Is that even allowable under FEI?) Would 
FEI riders not in the NC have to be included? If it is run as two seperate 
rides, then people qualified for both would have to choose?
Yes, I think there is room for riders with all goals within AERC. Less than 
a year ago, the very mention of FEI & AERC regular rides mixed was looked 
upon with horror and suspicion, now we've swung to the other extreme 
(running one with the National Championship).The coming ride season will be 
the first one with several of these conjoined rides, it might be good to 
step back and see how they work out

Nancy Mitts




>From: "Alison Farrin" <alison@innovativepension.com>
>Reply-To: <alison@innovativepension.com>
>To: <Howard4567@aol.com>, <ridecamp@endurance.net>
>Subject: RC:  RE: UAE/AERC
>Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:00:27 -0800
>
>Howard - the perception is that it isn't politically correct to let UAE be 
>a
>sponsor.  The chance of a UAE rider participating in our national
>championship ride is very small.  In any case he should be treated like any
>other rider and UAE should be treated like any other sponsor.  Let's just
>say that Sundowner decided to professionally sponsor Angie McGhee because
>they like they way she writes about endurance and that's helping promote a
>sport they also sponsor on a national basis.  When Angie gets to the
>National Championships, do we tell Sundowner they can't be a sponsor 
>because
>its a conflict of interest?  I don't think its gonna happen.  Yet, you
>ascribe all kinds of base motives - "Payola.  Bribery.  Being bought and
>paid for" - is your quote; to UAE Without Any Proof Whatsoever.
>
>The perception of those folks with the negative attitude toward the UAE is
>that UAE is in it to cheat.  Now as far as I know there's no substance to
>back that up.  What we do know, is that in Egypt, they thought their
>sponsorship meant they could run the ride.  We just have to make sure that
>doesn't happen in the US.
>
>The point is:  Keep an Open Mind and Don't put a label on anyone without
>proof.
>
>Alison
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Howard4567@aol.com [mailto:Howard4567@aol.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 4:42 PM
>To: ridecamp@endurance.net
>Subject: RC: UAE/AERC
>
>
>In a message dated 3/27/01 5:46:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>CMKSAGEHIL@AOL.COM writes:
>
><< Randy, I'd say your facts are correct here, but I still fail to see how
>what you've said has any bearing on why AERC turned down the offer of UAE
>money for an FEI division at an AERC ride!   >>
>
>Well, then you ain't paying attention, cause I certainly understand where
>the
>problem lies.  It's called perception.  Payola.  Bribery.  Being bought and
>paid for.
>
>Did you read his paragraphs concerning "conflict of interest(s)?"  I mean
>come on, if the FEI portion of the ride is sponsored by the same country 
>who
>competes and competes seriously, then there's not much doubt that there's a
>conflict of interest.  If the vets and judges are paid by the same country
>who plans on winning the race, don't you see a conflict there?  Are you
>living on the same planet as the rest of us?
>
>If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, poops like a duck, my guess is
>it's a duck.  When I was in the Air Force (I'm sure y'all love hearing 
>about
>this) they had a saying that if anything you do has even an appearance of
>impropriety than you'd damn well better change what you're doing.  Culture
>differences not withstanding, I think even the UAE might be able to see
>where
>the perception of conflicting interests might lie.  Maybe one of their
>foreign brokers can try and explain it to them sometime.
>
>cya,
>Howard (I'm still riding the great X 20 grandson of Paul Revere's horse)
>
>
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