RE: RE: RE: RE: Wild Horses Debunked!

["Michael Sherrell" <grizzlyan@mindspring.com>]

I like that "likely to be prosecuted for shooting a trespasser."

There was a guy in the East Bay that shot and killed an unthreatening
trespasser a year or two ago and was charged with murder, but I never heard
the outcome.

Regards,

Michael Sherrell
Grizzly Analytical (USA)
707 887 2919/fax 707 887 9834
www.grizzlyanalytical.com

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From: 	Kathy Mayeda[SMTP:kathy_mayeda@atce.com]
Sent: 	Thursday, December 07, 2000 2:42 PM
To: 	Michael Sherrell; CMKSAGEHIL@aol.com; 'Ridecamp'
Subject: 	RC:  RE: RE: RE: Wild Horses Debunked!

The active word is "when you ask permission".  Landowners are more
likely to give you access to their lands if they know your face
and will treat their land with respect, rather than strewing beer
bottles all over the place.  I think that there is a lot more
respect for property in rural areas than in our crowded suburban,
increasingly urban area here. We have strong reasons for those
signs - but then again gunowners are not popular here either and
are likely to be persecuted for shooting a trespasser.

Kathy Mayeda - in the middle of Silicon Valley


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Sherrell [mailto:grizzlyan@mindspring.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 10:56 AM
To: CMKSAGEHIL@aol.com; 'Ridecamp'
Subject: RC: RE: RE: Wild Horses Debunked!


Things may be different in your neck of the woods, but everywhere I've
gone
in California, from Redding to San Diego and Big Sur to Tahoe, the
private
cattle lands are fenced and sport "Trespassers will be Prosecuted"
signs.
Someone told me once that when she lived in Oregon and Idaho 20 years
back
it was understood that as long as you closed the gates behind you you
were
welcome in grazing land, and that would be great, but in CA there's the
strong impression purveyed that you risk getting shot if you try that.

Regards,

Michael Sherrell
Grizzly Analytical (USA)
707 887 2919/fax 707 887 9834
www.grizzlyanalytical.com

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From: 	CMKSAGEHIL@aol.com[SMTP:CMKSAGEHIL@aol.com]
Sent: 	Wednesday, December 06, 2000 8:21 PM
To: 	grizzlyan@mindspring.com; ridecamp@endurance.net
Subject: 	Re: RC:  RE: RE: Wild Horses Debunked!

<<Ranching does have a significant impact on trail riding>>

Yes, it does.  Ranchers usually stand side by side with trail users in
efforts to keep public lands OPEN for use by the very public that owns
it--and ranchers, riders, miners, hikers, loggers, snowmobilers, etc.
are
ALL public.  They also often open up their PRIVATE land for use by trail
riders (often including actual endurance rides) when one asks
permission,
and are often far easier to deal with than the bureaucrats managing our
PUBLIC lands.  Furthermore, when using either private ranch land or
public
lands that ranchers have utilized for grazing, there are usually
maintained
trail or jeep road systems, access to water for horses, and many other
fringe benefits.  I've been on both sides of this particular fence, and
the
rancher and the trail rider have much more in common than many people
seem
to realize.  Both have a desire to keep the resources well-managed so
that
they are there for future generations.

Heidi



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