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RE: FW: Wild Horses Debunked!



How I know what? That cattle are hard on the environment? That the
proposition that "ranchers are stewards of the land" is propaganda?

Regards,

Michael Sherrell
Grizzly Analytical (USA)
707 887 2919/fax 707 887 9834
www.grizzlyanalytical.com

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From: 	Drin Becker[SMTP:rainbow@montana.com]
Sent: 	Tuesday, December 05, 2000 9:03 AM
To: 	Michael Sherrell
Subject: 	Re: FW: Wild Horses Debunked!

BULLSHIT Michael ! You tell me how you know that ! C'mon , you talk the talk
now tell me !
                                         Drin
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Sherrell <grizzlyan@mindspring.com>
To: 'Ridecamp' <ridecamp@endurance.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 8:44 AM
Subject: RC: FW: Wild Horses Debunked!


> "people who have been caring for the land and the animals for generations"
> sounds like propaganda to me. I wonder if Utah attorney White ever
> represents any of our famous friends of the environment-ranchers against
> that evil ol' federal government?
>
> Cattle are very destructive to the environment. I don't think that's fuzzy
> propaganda designed to tug at the heart strings. Whether the destruction
is
> worth the meat is a social decision.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael Sherrell
> Grizzly Analytical (USA)
> 707 887 2919/fax 707 887 9834
> www.grizzlyanalytical.com
>
> ----------
> From: Joane Pappas White[SMTP:Lyoness@Castlenet.com]
> Reply To: Lyoness@Castlenet.com
> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 8:33 PM
> To: Ridecamp
> Subject: RC:  Wild Horses Debunked!
>
> I asked Steph for permission before posting the following in response to
> the Horse Rescue Story:
>
> Hi Ridecampers,
>
> Anybody figure out who actually sent us the Wild Horse Rescue story that
> Drin responded to so well?  While I noticed several of our members on
> the FW mailing list, the actual posters were not regulars.
>
> It bothers me when Ridecamp is used for such uninformed politcal
> propaganda.  If our own members and participants voiced an opinion and
> we had a meaningful dialectic about oposing views and IF IT WAS
> ENDURANCE RELATED, I would say great.  Instead we get this emotional
> PAP!
>
> So far all I have heard is that anyone who does not want to save every
> wild horse is evil, immoral or uncaring. If we just changed the words to
> communist, pinko, reds, we would be right back to the McCarthy Era.
> (Emotional Ploy to play on dislike of evil while tugging at heart
> strings--Basic Communications 101:Propaganda Techniques).
>
> The infamous (and equally unidentified) "Permittees" are attacked
> because they have a form of property right in
> in land which is owned by our federal government. God forbid that they
> might raise a some sheep or cows to feed this nation.  Interestingly
> enough, the ranchers and farmers are also the ones that feed the deer,
> elk, Big Horn Sheep, cougar, bear, antelope and everything else that
> lives not only the federal lands but their private ranches/farms as
> well.  But by all means, let us not ask the people who have been caring
> for the land and the animals for generations what might be best.
> Instead let us just use another propaganda technique called "labeling"
> to try and persuade the the well-meaning public that the Big Bad Old
> Cattle Baron is getting rich off "Public" land and is plotting to kill
> the wild horses to do so.  Again divide and conquer by getting us to
> blame permittees while Tugging on heart strings--and this time purse
> strings. I'm sure there is a pitch for money here.
>
> The fact that our government has deemed that the multiple use of the
> land is beneficial to all it citizens appears lost on the One Cause
> crowd.  Save the Wild Horses.  Save all of them--the sick, the starving
> and overpopuated.  Before I just attacked the "Forest Ranger" as a
> demented horse killer, I would want to know why he was rounding up the
> wild horses.  In Utah last year, a number of wild horses were gathered
> and tested and a large number had EIA.  Have you ever seen a herd of
> sick and starving wild horses?  Have you thought about the consequences
> to them and the domestic horses if you try to keep all of them alive?
>
> Finally, the "Spanish Wild horses" are used to ask us to write our
> Senators and Congressmen.  The best book on the subject, which is only a
> couple of years old, 'Born Survivors on the Eve of Distruction', argued
> that some possible Spanish bloodlines similar to the Sorraias had been
> identified in Oregon, Utah, and Nevada. I don't recall Northen New
> Mexico being listed at all.  But even if it was, the point of the book
> was to try and encourage rounding up some of the individual horses which
> best displayed the Spanish characteristics and putting them in their own
> isolated breeding program to stop the corruption of the genetic pool
> with further uncontrolled breeding. Another emotional tug at our heart
> strings over the almost extinct Spanish Sorraia without facts to back up
> the allegations.
>
> On this type of logic I am going to write my Congressmen and women?
> Yeah Right!
>
> Joane Pappas White
> Attorney at Law
> Price, Utah
> AERC # 18027
> Ridecamper from the beginning
>
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