RE: Re: Electric Fencing information needed

["Bob Morris" <bobmorris@rmci.net>]

Electric fencing can be a very excellent method of containment or just a
bunch of continuing problems. Just depends on how you set it up. Here in
very dry country we do not depend on the normal ground. We use three wires
or tapes wit the top and bottom wires hot and the center wire grounded. That
way there is a better chance of completing the circuit.

I have used the tape, plain twisted smooth wire and also high tensile wire.
I prefer the high tensile wire on relatively flat ground as the requirements
for posts and intermediate supports is minimal. Maintenance is minimal. The
wide tape is good where visibility is a concern and the tape educates the
horse to the use of the tape at rides for containment.

All of the methods have their positive and negative sides.

As for chargers, I believe in the New Zealand type mainly made by Gallagher.
They have mains type , battery and also solar. They are all good.

Bob Morris

-----Original Message-----
From: Tina Rushing [mailto:tinarushing@coastside.net]
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 12:05 AM
To: Maryanne Stroud Gabbani
Cc: ridecamp
Subject: RC: Re: Electric Fencing information needed


I use a solar charger.  The solar charger does not produce as much ZAP as a
direct current charger but my horse respects it.  It is not as the sole
means of restraint.  I use it to protect the expensive lumber and keep my
beast away from tasty pedestrian fingers.  It's foggy here so there I have
to turn the charger off during sunless spells to let the battery charge up
(don't tell my horse, she doesn't seem to know that it is "off").

Insulators:  I like porcelain insulators and use porcelain "donuts" on wire
for corner strain insulators.  Plastic doesn't hold up.   Donuts and wire
are cheap.

Grounding:  in a dry climate you may not be able to get a good ground.  I
have my fencer grounded next to a creek, but in the summer it dries up and
the charge is noticeably reduced.  I am considering installing a second
ground rod to see if it will add some ZAP.  I'd like to hear privately from
people with experience.

Tina Rushing  tinarushing@coastside.net
El Granada, CA

-----Original Message-----
From: Maryanne Stroud Gabbani <maryanne@ratbusters.net>
To: Ridecamp <ridecamp@endurance.net>; Equine-L <EQUINE-L@LISTS.PSU.EDU>
Date: Saturday, November 11, 2000 6:43 AM
Subject: RC: Electric Fencing information needed


>I recently started doing some research on electric fencing for friends here
>in Egypt. Wood is very expensive and hard to maintain. Pipe fences are also
>extremely expensive, although easier to maintain, making decent paddock
>sizes prohibitively expensive. I realise that may seem weird in a country
>that is 99% empty desert, but most of that is either inaccessible, has no
>water, or is owned by either the army or the antiquities department. We've
>been trying to figure out how we can fence in an acre or two (actually
>measured here in feddans, but close to the same size) without going into
the
>poorhouse. I've corresponded with Terry Wise of ElectroBraid, but do others
>of you use these materials and how do you like them? How do they hold up?
We
>have rotten electrical supply in the countryside so we would be looking at
>solar panels (LOTS of sun!) for power and probably local wood for posts to
>make life easy on carrying or shipping the fencing materials. Our horses,
>while being those wily high strung (?!) Arab types have so far shown
>themselves very adept at lifting pipe gates right off the hinges and doing
>other such creative acts to get out...not that they ever go very far. They
>are not the types to go crashing into walls of any kinds and are all raised
>with almost every variety of livestock underfoot, so this also isn't much
of
>a problem.
>
>All feedback most gratefully accepted.
>
>Maryanne Stroud Gabbani
>Cairo, Egypt
>maryanne@ratbusters.net
>www.ratbusters.net
>
>
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