Re: Breeds

[Bette Lamore <woa@stormnet.com>]

Hi Kathy
If I ever get the urge to show off my beautiful babies again, I'm going
into the Arabian Sporthorse classes---just lead them in and show at all
gates. No craziness...YET!!!!!
Bette


Kathy Mayeda wrote:
> 
> Wow, it is an alternate reality in the halter world, isn't it?  The more I
> know about horses, the less enchanted I am about halter show ring.  Just
> wanna ride.
> 
> K.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   Bette Lamore [mailto:woa@stormnet.com]
> Sent:   Thursday, June 15, 2000 1:23 PM
> To:     Kathy Mayeda
> Cc:     RhndLev@cs.com; superpat@gateway.net; Ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject:        RC:   RE: Re: Breeds
> 
> Hi Kathy
> Interesting coincidence: 2 of my horses came back from Mike and one was
> light on his front (reared and struck out when he returned--- usually
> happens with horses who are whipped on the knees where it creates no
> welts) ---and the other yearling filly tried to nail my barn guys when
> she returned. Both had left my barn REALLY SWEET and KIND.
> Coincidence???? Took me months to get them back to their old selves
> (after 6 months with Mike).
> Bette
> 
> Kathy Mayeda wrote:
> >
> > Rhonda - Well said, I think you covered all the bases.  Beau and
> Beamer's
> > sire, Joust, had charged Mike Neal at the Scottsdale show and I'm sure
> that
> > Joust now has a "reputation."  He's a very smart horse and he simply
> cannot
> > be pushed.  With the right handler/rider he's a wonderful horse.  I'm
> not
> > saying that Mike Neal was abusive.  Joust probably just had enough
> "halter"
> > for the day, and saw no more use for it!
> >
> > The mares also have a lot to do with disposition.  Beau's dam is
> totally
> > mellow and is one of those that kids can crawl all over her.  Beau
> tends to
> > be like that, but has his sire's aggressiveness in performance.
> Beamer's
> > dam I didn't know, but she was the most unpopular horse on the ranch
> for the
> > duration of her breedlease.  Beamer is extremely smart and a prima
> donna.
> > She's likable, but it has to be on her terms, otherwise she fights and
> > pouts.
> >
> > And a breeder I know is no longer linebreeding a certain line because
> of
> > disposition issues.  These horses don't bond well with people and take
> many
> > times as long to train to do basic stuff.  But this is after breeding
> > several babies that way!
> >
> > Kathy
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:   RhndLev@cs.com [mailto:RhndLev@cs.com]
> > Sent:   Thursday, June 15, 2000 7:45 AM
> > To:     superpat@gateway.net; Ridecamp@endurance.net
> > Subject:        RC:   Re: Breeds
> >
> > You've been lucky, Pat.  My first Arabs were well-bred on paper
> anyway,
> > had
> > good conformation, but were not at all NICE.  I spent hundreds of
> hours
> > with
> > the first taming her and teaching her manners, watching John Lyons and
> > Pat
> > Parelli videos and trying those techniques on her, etc, etc.  After
> > three
> > years, I could easily handle her in situations she was used to, but
> > EVERY new
> > situation or thing required starting all over with the entire
> > de-spooking
> > process.  [Her full sister was the same way.]  Then one day, when I
> > thought I
> > had the horse thoroughly de-spooked, she charged my children with her
> > teeth
> > bared and ears laid back.  My children were standing at the fence line
> > feeding the other horses grass and doing nothing threatening.  I paid
> > $6500.00 for the mare and sold her after she charged my kids for
> $500.00
> > and
> > still feel like I ripped the person off.  The person I sold her to,
> BTW,
> > says
> > that Dancer is the best behaved Arabian that she has ever dealt with.
> >
> > On the other hand, I agreed to give a retirement home to a Raseyn
> > granddaughter and have never regretted it.  She is great with my kids
> > and a
> > wonderful friend.  My Padron Psyche daughter has a wonderful
> disposition
> > and
> > is very mellow.  I'm leasing a line-bred Gulastra mare and while she
> is
> > a
> > little hot, she doesn't have a mean bone in her body.  A good horse is
> a
> > good
> > horse.  The problem I've run into with the Arabians is that too few
> > breeders
> > now think that disposition matters and/or certain halter trainers are
> > encouraging psychotic behavior in the horses.
> >
> > Rhonda and Special
> >
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> Bette Lamore
> Whispering Oaks Arabians, Home of 16.2hh TLA Halynov
> (yes, REALLY!)
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Bette Lamore
Whispering Oaks Arabians, Home of 16.2hh TLA Halynov
(yes, REALLY!)
http://www.arabiansporthorse.com