RE: Re: Breeds

["Kathy Mayeda" <kathy_mayeda@atce.com>]

Rhonda - Well said, I think you covered all the bases.  Beau and Beamer's
sire, Joust, had charged Mike Neal at the Scottsdale show and I'm sure that
Joust now has a "reputation."  He's a very smart horse and he simply cannot
be pushed.  With the right handler/rider he's a wonderful horse.  I'm not
saying that Mike Neal was abusive.  Joust probably just had enough "halter"
for the day, and saw no more use for it!

The mares also have a lot to do with disposition.  Beau's dam is totally
mellow and is one of those that kids can crawl all over her.  Beau tends to
be like that, but has his sire's aggressiveness in performance.  Beamer's
dam I didn't know, but she was the most unpopular horse on the ranch for the
duration of her breedlease.  Beamer is extremely smart and a prima donna.
She's likable, but it has to be on her terms, otherwise she fights and
pouts.

And a breeder I know is no longer linebreeding a certain line because of
disposition issues.  These horses don't bond well with people and take many
times as long to train to do basic stuff.  But this is after breeding
several babies that way!

Kathy

-----Original Message-----
From:	RhndLev@cs.com [mailto:RhndLev@cs.com]
Sent:	Thursday, June 15, 2000 7:45 AM
To:	superpat@gateway.net; Ridecamp@endurance.net
Subject:	RC:   Re: Breeds

You've been lucky, Pat.  My first Arabs were well-bred on paper anyway,
had
good conformation, but were not at all NICE.  I spent hundreds of hours
with
the first taming her and teaching her manners, watching John Lyons and
Pat
Parelli videos and trying those techniques on her, etc, etc.  After
three
years, I could easily handle her in situations she was used to, but
EVERY new
situation or thing required starting all over with the entire
de-spooking
process.  [Her full sister was the same way.]  Then one day, when I
thought I
had the horse thoroughly de-spooked, she charged my children with her
teeth
bared and ears laid back.  My children were standing at the fence line
feeding the other horses grass and doing nothing threatening.  I paid
$6500.00 for the mare and sold her after she charged my kids for $500.00
and
still feel like I ripped the person off.  The person I sold her to, BTW,
says
that Dancer is the best behaved Arabian that she has ever dealt with.

On the other hand, I agreed to give a retirement home to a Raseyn
granddaughter and have never regretted it.  She is great with my kids
and a
wonderful friend.  My Padron Psyche daughter has a wonderful disposition
and
is very mellow.  I'm leasing a line-bred Gulastra mare and while she is
a
little hot, she doesn't have a mean bone in her body.  A good horse is a
good
horse.  The problem I've run into with the Arabians is that too few
breeders
now think that disposition matters and/or certain halter trainers are
encouraging psychotic behavior in the horses.

Rhonda and Special


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