Re: RC: weight division points

[Teddy Lancaster <teddy@runningbear.com>]

Speaking of decisions made too quick without enough tine for talk and
feedback...what has come of the $5.00 "donation" issue as an entry requirement
to the Trade Show at the Convention?

Teddy (who firmly believes in having a definitive plan BEFORE one asks for money
to support it)

Nancy Mitts wrote:

> Steph
> Although I disagree with changing the calculations, I believe the debate is
> healthy.
> However, after you get to read Randy's letter as published you may
> understand my other concern. The present system was brushed off as a
> "mistake" rather than a conscious decision by the board at the time (which
> it was). We were told the board would be "correcting" the matter. I find
> this cavalier attempt to change of one of the fundamental functions of AERC
> rather alarming. Issues like this often seem to crop up just a few weeks
> before the convention, not allowing time for anyone to think through all the
> ramifications of change. As a current board member, please to do fall victim
> to mistakes of the past. Rides for the 2000 ride season have already taken
> place under the present system. Do not make a hurried decision to change
> things without time for proper membership input. However well intentioned
> this may be, it gives the appearance of trying to slip something by the
> membership.
> Nancy Mitts
>
> >From: "Steph Teeter" <steph@endurance.net>
> >Reply-To: <steph@endurance.net>
> >To: <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> >Subject: RC:  weight division points
> >Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:19:50 -0800
> >
> >Here's a new topic to discuss:
> >
> >Most of you have probably read Randy Eiland's message in the recent
> >EN by now, discussing the current method of calculating points for
> >AERC in weight divisions.  I haven't read the article myself yet, but
> >assume that the jist of it is that the current method may not be the
> >'right' method. I tend to agree with Randy on this, but have heard from
> >others that they strongly dissagree ... so I'd like to hear from more of
> >you on the subject.
> >
> >Here's an explanation of the way it is, and the way it could be different.
> >
> >Now: Overall (non weight division) points are based upon overall placement
> >in the field. 1 point per mile is awarded all finishers in a 50 mile ride,
> >and
> >bonus points are awarded for top ten finishers.  The higher the placement,
> >the
> >greater number of bonus points. BUT, maximum bonus points are awarded only
> >if a least 11 riders start.  If 11 riders start, first place rider gets 150
> >points, last place rider gets 50 points. If less than 11 riders start, the
> >bonus
> >points are reduced, with worst case scenario being 1 starting rider, first
> >place
> >finisher receives 50 points (no bonus).   There is a direct relationship
> >between the number of overall riders and the amount of overall points.
> >
> >Now: Weight Division points are based upon placement of riders within
> >their weight division. i.e. the first middleweight rider gets maximum bonus
> >points.  But, bonus points for weight divisions are based upon the number
> >of Overall starters, not the number of starters in each weight division.
> >If 11 overall riders start, the first middle weight rider receives 150
> >points (maximum bonus ) points regardless of the number of middlewight
> >starters.  This person may be the only middleweight in the race and may
> >finish
> >last overall, but they still get 150 points.
> >
> >(btw the points are even higher on 100 mile rides - first to finish in a
> >full
> >field gets 450 points. If you're the only middleweight in a full ride and
> >you
> >simply finish (any placement) you get 450 weight division points.
> >
> >Another Scenario: Weight Division points are based upon the placement of
> >riders within their weight division, and bonus points are awarded based
> >upon the number of riders in each weight division (rather than overall
> >starters).
> >So in order to get full bonus points for a first to finish middleweight,
> >there must
> >be at least 11 middleweight starters.
> >
> >If you want to see the way the bonus points are actually distributed, check
> >the AERC Rules & Regulations (www.aerc.org).
> >
> >Comments? Should it stay the way it is regarding weight division points,
> >or change it to reflect the actual number of starters in each weight
> >division.
> >Maybe a smaller number of weight division starters than the 11 used for
> >overall points?
> >
> >Steph
> >
> >sunshine :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
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