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Sandy, this morning I posted the following notice on my front door. NOTICE TO ALL BURGLARS Please take in the following order. money jewelry furniture wife kid dog(s) Just leave me my logbook. JB ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandy Bolinger <bolinger@bigsky.net> To: ride <ridecamp@endurance.net> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2000 11:26 AM Subject: RC: Re: Getting PUlled -- It's a Privacy Issue > If somebody really wants your ride history---and it's only available to AERC > members...then that person who REALLY wants to know everything...whether its > so that he can empty our your house while your gone, or fire you from your > job as an accountant because you got pulled from two rides last year...all > that person has to do is join aerc....which is simple and cheap considering > the trade off(all your furniture) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: DreamWeaver <karen@chaton.gardnerville.nv.us> > To: Lif Strand <fasterhorses@gilanet.com>; Ridecamp <ridecamp@endurance.net> > Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2000 12:01 PM > Subject: RC: Getting PUlled -- It's a Privacy Issue > > > > At 10:25 AM 04/29/2000 -0600, Lif Strand wrote: > > >1) If I had a prospective or actual employer who spent that much energy > > >looking into my personal life, it would be a favor to me to have them > > >reject me as an employee. > > > > Guess what Lif. This happens a lot. Nowdays, you can't even get a job > > with most employers without taking a drug test. A lot of people probably > > don't even know about the background checking that goes on, and some > people > > just don't care because they already have jobs, or are retired so it > > doesn't apply to them. > > > > >2) If anyone gets busted for lying about where they were on a weekend, > > >that's not the fault of publishing ride results, now is it. > > > > That's why a lot of employers now let people take 'personal time', rather > > than sick leave -- so if you need a day off you can take it and don't have > > to feign an illness. But not everybody is so lucky to have such a > flexible > > employer. > > > > >3) If clients who haven't been told what you're doing are smart enough > to > > >somehow track you down at an endurance ride, they're smart enough to > track > > >you down anywhere. It's not like the EN is distributed like Time > Magazine > > >or TV Guide, available at every grocery & convenience store counter. Any > > >client who would spend that much energy to track someone down is too > scary > > >to do work for. > > > > We aren't talking about Endurance News, Lif. We are talking about > somebody > > doing a search on the internet and finding a persons entire ride > > history. If you are not an endurance rider, EN can be hard to find. > > > > And while you might find a nosy employer too scary to work for, not > > everybody has a choice or perhaps they don't even realize it or know how > > nosy their employer is. People put up with a lot more than invasion of > > privacy issues in order to keep a job. > > > > >4) If your neighborhood cat burgler reads EN or even goes online & finds > > >out you've completed a ride, it's already too late for them to do > anything > > >about burgling you because you'll be back home before the info is > published. > > > > Unless they have half a brain, which they probably do if they are surfing > > the net, they can simply look and see that a person had done a certain > ride > > (multiday, etc.) for the last three years and what are the odds that > > they'll be gone that same week again this year? The ride calendar is also > > available for them to check dates. There are always news stories about > > 'internet stalkers', and yes, using the internet to find out information > to > > use against somebody (or harm them in some way, like robbing their home) > is > > becoming a lot more common. > > > > >Results of Little League games are published. Results of high school > > >basketball & football games are published. Media reporters can attend > > >endurance races. Anyone who wants to can be a spectator at an endurance > > >ride, including employers, relatives & enemies. The races often are > held > > >on public land. I don't think there is any way endurance racing could > be > > >considered anything but a public event. > > > > Yes, but it's entirely different. The entire history of each player is > not > > posted, and if it is posted in a local newspaper it is probably not making > > the national news. > > > > >Sorry - I got a little carried away here. But of all the areas to be > > >concerned about privacy in this day & age, I don't think publishing ride > > >results is one of them. Lif > > > > I don't think the publishing of ride results is the issue. It's giving a > > stranger the ability to look up a persons entire ride history. It's fine > > if other members want to see that information - that's why we all get > > yearbooks, but I personally don't think it is anybody elses business. I > > did not realize that the role AERC plays in it's record keeping would > allow > > them to give this information out to any non-member over the internet. > > > > Some people place a lot higher regard for their privacy than others > > do. Lots of us on the internet think nothing of it, heck we have webpages > > highlighting all of the rides we've done -- it's not like we're timid > about > > telling people<G>, but that doesn't mean we should not have respect for > > people that want to keep their private life private. If somebody wants to > > know my entire ride history (or a horses), then I would feel much more > > comfortable about it if I knew who and why.......obviously other members > > are going to know because I'm out there riding with them. > > > > Happy Trails, > > > > Karen > > in NV > > & Rocky, 2,515 miles > > & Weaver, 3,255 miles > > http://members.xoom.com/ridephotos/ > > > > > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. > > Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/RideCamp > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. > Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/RideCamp > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >
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