RE: Re: panacur

["Kerry Dykes" <KDykes@cpes.com>]

Bonnie, you may want to check the archives, there was quite a bit of
discussion on this during the past few months.  I did this last month on the
recommendation of my vet (there definitely is a "window" in which you need
to do it for major effectiveness -- which he said was mid-March in Tucson).
Actually, it was the "Sure Guard" (or Safe Guard) brand, apple flavored
tubes and not a liquid I used. I accidently spilled some one time and the
horse just licked it up -- not you're usual reaction to worming! If you get
it through someplace like Animal Health Express it costs in the $ 5.25 per
tube range vs. over $8.00 in the feed store - quite a savings if you're
doing several horses like I was.

If nothing else, there was an almost immediate change in their hair coats -
really shed out fast and the best looking summer coats I've ever seen on
them - almost like they've been oiled.  Good luck!

Kerry

-----Original Message-----
From: B.E. Jackson [mailto:riosanbravo@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 2:41 PM
To: hn.heather@wanadoo.fr; ranger2@net-magic.net; ridecamp@endurance.net
Subject: RC: Re: panacur


Great post, Heather. Does the company who makes Panacur officially recommend
the 5-day consecutive dosing you mention? I've never heard of doing that but
would like to follow up on it. Speaking as a horse owner who in th past has
had a number of horses colic in late spring (and they weren't on green
pasture), it makes me want to investigate possible chinks in my worming
regime.

Bonnie in AZ


----Original Message Follows----
From: "hn.heather" <hn.heather@wanadoo.fr>
To: "Carlson, Jeff" <ranger2@net-magic.net>, <ridecamp@endurance.net>
Subject: RC:  Re: panacur
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 09:54:09 +0100

Anita

The deworming you speak of with panacur is not a "purge" but should form
part of an annual deworming program.  The idea of 5 days panacur is to
target encysted red worm larvae which over-winter in the walls of the
intestine, liver, and heart.  There is a massive exodus of these larvae in
the spring which can provoke occlusions and colic.

Liquid panacur 10% given at NORMAL dose (7,5ml/100kg live weight) is the
only wormer which will target 100% of encysted worm larvae and should be
given in Nov/Dec (recommendations for Europe).  Equest will also target
encysted larvae and Fort Dodge say it will hit 80% of the larvae.

In the UK there is a product called Panacur Guard which is essentially
liquid panacur which provides the correct dose for this treatment.  I think
you also have a new product on the market in the US which does the same
thing.

Strongic C will not touch encysted worm larvae, neither will ivermectin in
any of its forms.

Hope this helps.

Heather
SW France

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Carlson, Jeff
   To: ridecamp@endurance.net
   Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 11:55 PM
   Subject: RC: panacur


   Can anyone tell me what exactly "purge" deworming w/ double dose panacur
daily for 5 days does?  I'd heard it is good to do this once/year then
deworm as usual every 2 months.
   does purge deworming get the encysted strongyles?  better than
strongid-C?
   thanks
   Anita Carlson

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