Re: Gas or Oil out, What is the problem????

["GESA BRINKS" <gesaeqfx@pe.net>]

Good grief,  I never called you a liar nor did I intend it to sound that
way.  Geeze! I realize that Calif.  has different wage scales than the rest
of the U.S. and I can only go by what I know to be happening in CA.  The
people I know are doing quite well.  Yes, you are right, I have been living
away from the oil fields for about 12 years now and I am sure that things
are different now.  However, when I go back and visit, everything looks even
better than when I left.  As far as I know, Im still entitled to an opinion,
and I made it.  Dont take it so personally.    gesa
-----Original Message-----
From: Lynette Helgeson <helgeson@lansford.ndak.net>
To: GESA BRINKS <gesaeqfx@pe.net>
Cc: ridecamp@endurance.net <ridecamp@endurance.net>
Date: Thursday, March 23, 2000 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: Gas or Oil out, What is the problem????


>GESA BRINKS wrote:
>> I was raised in the oil fields of Huntington Beach, CA.  The oil workers
and
>> roughnecks do work hard, but,  they are payed extremely well.  Hell, the
>> lowly office clerk was paid quite well.  I worked for a crane and
trucking
>> company that also did work for Chevron, Mobile, Shell, Aminoil, and
Texaco.
>> Quite a few of my friends were working for oil companies.  They ALL had
>> there own homes, if not more than one, drove great vehicles and had lots
of
>> fancy toys.  I have a hard time trying to swallow the part about the
lowly
>> oil field hand.   gesa
>
>When was that? Back in the 70's and 80's?
>Then the oil field workers were paid well.
>But they have taken pay cuts and been laid
>off since then. Most of them have lost
>everything they had. At least around here,
>which is a lot of people. Since you are
>calling me a liar, I will tell you that my
>husband runs a workover rig, he has a crew
>of three men working under him. He is not
>only responsible for everything that goes
>wrong on the rig or the job, but he is
>directly responsible for the lives and
>welfare of the men working under him,
>since he controls the speed of the rig.
>For this job and great responsibility, he
>is paid $11.60 per hour. The men working
>under him are paid considerable less. Most
>telemarketers around here make more money
>then him. We have a house that is over 60
>years old and the roof leaks so bad the
>ceiling is starting to fall down on us. We
>can't afford to get it fix. Maybe this
>next summer, with the higher oil prices
>and hopefully more work, we will be able
>to do that. My car that I use to get to
>work is over 10 yrs old and is in
>desperate need of repair. Thankfully my
>husband gets to drive a company pickup,
>since he has to drive close to 100 miles a
>day to get to work, when they do work. I
>drive 80 miles to get to work.
>
>Believe me, I am not complaining. I am
>very blessed in many other ways besides
>money, but I do not think that you are in
>the position to make judgments as to how
>the families of the oil field workers are
>living in ND!!!!
>
>Lynette
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lynette Helgeson <helgeson@lansford.ndak.net>
>> To: ridecamp@endurance.net <ridecamp@endurance.net>
>> Date: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 6:24 AM
>> Subject: RC: Re: Gas or Oil out, What is the problem????
>>
>> >Someone posts this forwarded message on
>> >ridecamp,
>> >underneath is my reply and I hope that
>> >everyone
>> >reads and begins to understand why this is
>> >not
>> >a good thing to have posted.
>> >
>> >> This message was received and forwarded - please
>> >> forward it!
>> >> Anytime we can stick it to them it's a good day.
>> >
>> >>  Last year on April 30,1999, a gas out was staged
>> >> across Canada
>> >> and the U.S. to bring the price of gas down, and
>> >> it worked. It's time to
>> >> do something about it again.
>> >
>> >
>> > Just who do you think that you are
>> > STICKING IT TO???? Nameless, faceless men
>> >sitting in big
>> > offices with lots of money????
>> >
>> >If the price of oil drops way down it is
>> >not the head of the
>> >oil companies that are going to feel the
>> >pinch. They might
>> >just have to take a couple less vacations
>> >that year, or
>> >maybe not buy that new yacht. It is the
>> >guys on the bottom
>> >who are doing all of the hard work that
>> >are laid off and
>> >given wage cuts. If you do a gas out to
>> >drop the the price
>> >of oil, it is my family and others like us
>> >who you are going
>> >to be sticking it to!!!!!
>> >
>> > There are a lot of us very poor people
>> >who
>> > are very relieved
>> > and happy to see the prices of oil
>> >finally
>> > coming up. We have
>> > not seen good prices since the 80's and
>> >it
>> > is about time we
>> > have some good prices.
>> >
>> > The majority of the people in the oil
>> > industry are the ones
>> > on the bottom. The drillers, the oil
>> > workers, the guys working
>> > at very hard, dirty and DANGEROUS jobs in
>> > order to bring up
>> > and process the oil so that you may have
>> > the comfort of low
>> > gas prices and many other things.
>> >
>> > IT IS ABOUT TIME that these guys who have
>> > worked so hard on
>> > low pay, get something out of it. Not
>> >only
>> > does the higher oil
>> > prices help a lot of families, but the
>> > schools in rural ND get
>> > a lot of tax revenue from the oil field,
>> > the higher prices
>> > encourage drilling which is good for the
>> > economy. Puts a lot
>> > of out-of-work men, back to work.
>> >
>> > PLUS, compared to the rest of the world,
>> > the US pays some pretty
>> > low prices for gas. So quit your
>> > bellyaching and be happy for the
>> > ones that so desperately need the money
>> > that the higher prices will
>> > bring.
>> >
>> > I for one am going to buy as much gas as
>> >I
>> > can on April 7-9. We
>> > have a bigger gas tank sitting empty,
>> > because we could not afford
>> > to fill it. But now I am going to fill it
>> > on those days and
>> > encourage everyone I can to buy gas.
>> >
>> >So please forward this message on to as
>> >many
>> >people as you can!!!!!! Help save an
>> >endangered
>> >species, the oil field workers!!!!!!
>> >
>> >
>> > Lynette in ND
>> > where the two main industries are oil and
>> > farming and where there
>> > are A LOT of families who are very happy
>> > to finally see some
>> > good prices for oil, which means work.
>> >
>> > > > > Subject: Oil out
>> > > > >
>> > > > > This message was received and
>> >forwarded - please
>> > > > forward it!
>> > > > > Anytime we can stick it to them
>> >it's a good day.
>> > > > >
>> >> > > >  Last year on April 30,1999, a gas out was staged
>> >> > > across Canada
>> >> > > > and the U.S. to bring the price of gas down, and
>> >> > > it worked. It's time to
>> >> > > > do something about it again.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > This time, lets make it for three days instead of
>> >> > > just one. The oil
>> >> > > > cartel decided to slow production to drive up
>> >> > > gasoline prices.
>> >> > > > Lets see how many Canadian/American people we can
>> >> > > get to ban together
>> >> > > > for a three day period in April, NOT TO BUY ANY
>> >> > > GASOLINE, during those
>> >> > > > three days.
>> >> > > > LETS HAVE A GAS OUT.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Do not buy any gasoline from APRIL 7, 2000,
>> >> > > THROUGH APRIL 9, 2000.
>> >> > > > Buy what you need before the dates listed above,
>> >> > > or after, but try
>> >> > > > not to buy any during the GAS OUT. If you want to
>> >> > > help, just send this
>> >> > > > to everyone you know and ask them to do the same.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > We brought the prices down once before, and we can
>> >> > > do it again!
>> >> > > > Come on North America lets stand together.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > WE CAN MAKE A
>> >> > > DIFFERENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Even if you receive this 100 times keep passing it
>> >> > > around, this way
>> >> > > > you know everyone is being informed and no one
>> >> > > will forget!!!!!!!!
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> > =====
>> >> > She
>> >> >
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>> >> > Subject: RC: Jose Dantes' Requiem
>> >> > Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 22:49:08 EST
>> >> > From: DVeritas@aol.com
>> >> > To: tomsitesgoearth@shentel.net
>> >> > CC: ridecamp@endurance.net
>> >> >
>> >> > Tramps, both of yous.
>> >> > Congratulations on heeding his call and staying to 175.
>> >> > I wish all "horsepeople" could find their Jose Dante and allow them
>> safe
>> >> > haven while they recover from "civilization" together.
>> >> > Bless the both of yous.
>> >> > Frank.
>> >> >
>> >> >
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>> >> > Subject: RC: 20 Mule Team ride photos
>> >> > Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 19:46:26 -0800
>> >> > From: Karen Clanin <kclanin@fix.net>
>> >> > To: ridecamp@endurance.net
>> >> >
>> >> > if you rode the 60 or 100 at 20MT and have not received your proofs
>> check
>> >> > the web site
>> >> >         http://www.familyphoto.cjb.net
>> >> > as there are some proofs that i could not identify the rider and
also a
>> >> > page of "returned to sender" that were incorrect addresses.
>> >> >
>> >> > Karen Clanin
>> >> > kclanin@fix.net
>> >> > http:www.bigfoot.com/~kclanin
>> >> > http://www.geocities.com/darlingbud_99/winner.html
>> >> >
>> >> >
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>> >> > Subject: RC: saying 'thanks' to SI for the article
>> >> > Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 19:43:43 -0800
>> >> > From: Karen Clanin <kclanin@fix.net>
>> >> > To: ridecamp@endurance.net
>> >> >
>> >> > anyone that would like to take a moment to thank the author of the
SI
>> >> > article can do so by writing:   <Amanda_Bower@timeinc.com>
>> >> >
>> >> > considering that many have voiced wanting to see more publicity for
>> >> > endurance riding it helps to let the magazine know their effort was
>> >> > appreciated.
>> >> >
>> >> > Karen Clanin
>> >> > kclanin@fix.net
>> >> > http:www.bigfoot.com/~kclanin
>> >> > http://www.geocities.com/darlingbud_99/winner.html
>> >> >
>> >> >
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>> >> > Subject: RC: America, the beautiful
>> >> > Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 20:08:13 -0800
>> >> > From: "superpat" <superpat@gateway.net>
>> >> > To: <MBlanchrd@aol.com>, <ridecamp@endurance.net>
>> >> >
>> >> > > Finally...(and it amazes me, but I am sure to recieve flames for
>> this...)
>> >> > you
>> >> > > will learn what an enormous blessing from God it is that you are
an
>> >> > American.
>> >> > > It may sound scmaltzy, and, as I said, there's a few people out
there
>> who
>> >> > > will privately flame me for saying this but..... America is the
>> greatest
>> >> > > country on earth.
>> >> > > Try it, Renee, and if you have more questions, let me know.
>> >> > > Michelle
>> >> > > MBlanchrd@aol.com
>> >> > > Oly, WA
>> >> > You get no argument here. I am reminded almost every day how
fortunate
>> I am
>> >> > to live in a country where I can think and speak my own words and
>> thoughts
>> >> > without fear. I was riding in the mountains today and my friend and
I
>> were
>> >> > commenting on what a diverse and beautiful country America is. That
we
>> can
>> >> > immerse ourselves in our passion (horses for those who haven't
guessed
>> as
>> >> > much) without being rich or beholden to anyone. Several years ago, I
>> went on
>> >> > a trek in Nepal and hiked to the base of Mt. Everest. I saw
spectacular
>> >> > mountains and scenery and met some of the most gentle and beautiful
>> people
>> >> > on earth. When I stepped off of the plane in Seattle one month
later, I
>> >> > wanted to kiss the ground. Nope, you get no arguments here.
>> >> > Pat Super
>> >> >
>> >> >
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